Comment by FusionX
4 hours ago
We're already seeing anti-AI sentiments, but the movement is still fringe with a vocal minority. However, that'll change soon without alignment. Without self-intervention, there will invariably be future incidents that can cause major economic impact, leaked private data, loss of life (directly/indirectly) etc. Once that happens, their social capital is wiped. It'll be an avalanche of lawsuits and overzealous regulations. Most importantly, the anti-AI sentiment will become universal, rather than a minority-held opinion.
What they're proposing now, is voluntarily staggering the pace of development.
IMO, we don't need to trust Dario or his bedfellows, to do this out of their goodness of their heart. Even assuming (for good reasons) that they are selfish and care only about short-term profits for their investors, this is still purely a business decision. The exponential pace of AI and its impacts ARE short-term. And so, the negative consequences that they might face is also short-term.
I don’t think the anti-AI sentiment is as fringe as you think. At least not outside the tech world it isn’t..
Ya, I wish I saved a link to it but an HN'r wrote a good beefy comment about this. TL;DR, AI has been exponentially more useful, and exponentially more accepted, in tech circles than anywhere else. Certainly there are lots of people outside of tech who are obsessed with it. I don't have any data here, but it seems the majority of these are the wannabe artists who are generating music and images, and people who use it for companionship (both of these scenarios I'm personally very uncomfortable with, but that's just me). And of course, there are people who use it to make their jobs way easier who say they are getting a days' work done in an hour (I see you), and to that I'd say to enjoy it while it lasts. Eventually your bosses will catch up and it's very likely their expectations of you will skyrocket. Remember that computers in general were supposed to "make us work less."
> but the movement is still fringe with a vocal minority
It’s easy to say “fringe” but the average person seems to have a generally negative sentiment around AI. But I wouldn’t say they have a firm opinion yet
The general sentiment I’ve seen is certainly negative, and seems to be driven by the anti-AI-art echo chamber and by LLM slop flooding the internet wasting everyone’s energy.
A few more informed people are also a little concerned about the end of the world, but that’s approaching from so many directions that an AI uprising might not be the worst option…
>> I don’t understand all the comments assuming that RSI is the real threat here
> leaked private data, loss of life
This smells like more of a money move than a safety move.
Amodei is proposing to form a cartel of American frontier labs.
They all agree to shift compute away from cash-burning research and training toward cash-generating inference.
Then tacitly agree not to compete on price.
They'll install independent auditors inside each company to ensure nobody cheats.
And back it up with government regulation or diktat to punish defectors from the cartel.
Then they'll lock out non-American labs with export controls and regulations on open-weights models to funnel global inference tokens through their cartel.
It wouldn't be the first time a tech oligopoly used "safety" as the pretext to establish a government-sanctioned cartel.
Railroads and airlines ran this same playbook.
Yup it’s tacit collusion.
I would’ve thought If they had AGI they could come up with a 10d chess move.
Nope.
Imagine how stupid you gotta be to believe their nonsense.
The reality is it doesn’t matter what they do. China is always one step behind and will continue its open product strategy approach.
Anything related to AI is extremely unpopular right now with the general public.
Exactly right. A slow down to enable deeper work on alignment is welcome, not matter what the motivations.
Anti AI sentiment is stupid.
I'm Anti AI yet I use it everyday! That's 99.9999% of anti AI sentiment (including me).
At best we won't watch AI generated movies or read AI generated books. But everything else it will take over, like it or not.
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