Comment by JumpCrisscross

2 hours ago

> Making a loan/offering credit isn't automatically money creation

The Fed can limitlessly increase monetary base (MB) to increase M1. Non-bank lenders create M4 which turns into M2 through the money markets which turns into M1 through the banks. More convoluted and more limited, by design. But the net effect is the same–more M1.

More broadly: when you open a bar tab, you're literally creating money, even if it never hits M1.

Credit is always money creation. When it's done at scale it's almost always creating M1.

If we attempted to pay our taxes by creating this new money, do you think we would succeed? Because I suspect that when we get to the tax office we will discover that what you're calling money is not actually money in the practical sense.

Or I suppose I should spend more time with an open bar tab come tax time.

The monetary aggregates are things that are theoretically equivalent to creating money, but I'm going to challenge whether it is proper to compare M4 activity to the fed balance sheet. One of those entities is involved in actual money creation. One of them is hyper-privileged money creation that is more impactful and less comparable to other forms.