Comment by torginus

12 hours ago

Tangential, but one of the concerns I have about these 'smart' cars is they have an expiration deadline.

There's an exceedingly common type of failure I have seen myself in industrial electronics and (has happened with Tesla at least once), that some module keeps a log of some kind in a nonvolatile flash, and this flash has a limited lifecycle, which the equipment reaches at some years into its life (or earlier, if the flash came from a bad batch, or more logging happens than planned).

At this point the board usually gets bricked and replacement is very hard due to cryptographic handshakes between components.

They've become cell phones on wheels. I'm disappointed with what vehicles (and phones too!) have become.

  • I share the sentiment. I want a new car, but only if I can guarantee all telemetry is hard disabled. But I don’t have the kind of money to buy a new car and risk bricking it. Luckily I’m pretty handy, so I’ll have to keep my 2014< cars forcefully running as long as I can.

    • Disabling the antennas is the only way to be sure. There will typically be a coax connection that you can cap with a terminator. GPS can be merged with other radios you might not want to lose but suitable splitters are available.

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    • I have non concerns about having a built in button to phone emergency services. I don’t even mind if it auto rings in a crash. I’m even happy to provide position to the emergency service in the event of dialing them.

      Manufacturers use this capacity as an excuse to push more adtech penny and dime data abuse, knowing half the world will blame the government.

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