Comment by ezst

20 hours ago

> if you're a human rights activist or journalist in an oppressive country, I'd stick to Signal

So that the state actor can listen on the edge of the network and infer with whom you are taking and when? Or maximize their chances of finding a 0-day in the client considering that it's the same client that everyone else's using? Or throwing it all away anyways when it's using Apple/Play services for notifications delivery?

I mean, as opposed to using something like XMPP which you can completely use over Tor and never even reveal which server you use/that you use XMPP, from a client running a secure and minimalistic OS and no service-in-the-middle ?

Some would label Signal as a honeypot and it would be difficult to falsify that.

> Or throwing it all away anyways when it's using Apple/Play services for notifications delivery?

What do you mean by "all"

  • https://www.wired.com/story/phone-notifications-reveal-more-...

    Apple, at least, maintained a historical database of your phone's notifications, that it did not clean up after they expired. That includes all notifications from Signal telling you that person XXX has sent you a message that starts YYYY <facepalm>

    • Forgot about that and that def was bad, though imo not really on Signal and would have just as much affected any XMPP app, no? To me this definitely didn't "[throw] it all away" as in your messages were still only on your phone and never decrypted on any server or w/e.

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