Comment by jm4

8 hours ago

I love how the content belongs to them when someone else reposts it but it belongs to the user if the content is illegal. Such a double standard with these social media and AI companies. Why do we put up with it?

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embedding-shape  8 hours ago

> Why do we put up with it?

You let it happen. Once people stop letting it happen, it'll stop. But social media is apparently the new "opium of the masses" so here we are and no one wants to do anything.

  • flaburgan  7 hours ago

    I actually do want to do something. I started to scrape Twitter to make it freely available. The web should stay open.

    • immibis2  4 hours ago

      I am also doing something, by hosting one of the public instances of Nitter.

      Nitter is useful for sporadic random access to tweets, but for public feeds like municipal authorities etc. it would be useful if someone scraped the feed and re-hosted the feed from their own server, without being hobbled by rate limits. Is that what you're doing?

simianparrot  8 hours ago

Did the users of X consent to XCancel copying their posts to their servers?

  • conception  8 hours ago

    Everyone who goes to twitter copies the posts to their computers.

    • 27183  7 hours ago

      Spot on. This is where a lot of these "terms and conditions" break down logically. Viewing some content on the internet is literally copying it.

      So is the distinction that xcancel served the content? But when I run

        mtr xcancel.com

      I see a bunch of hops between me and them. Every one of those hops is literally copying and retransmitting all the content. Are they not also serving it?

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  • 8note  1 hour ago

    i have not deputized twitter to post takedowns on my behalf. its my content and copyright, not twitter's

  • embedding-shape  7 hours ago

    I think users implicitly consent to their public data being public data when they put it in public together with other public data.

    How I view that public data they decided to make public data, is none of their business.

  • roosterIllusi0n  7 hours ago

    Why can't they distill twitter when AI companies distill everything including twitter? Distilling is copying and redistributing.

    • akerl_  5 hours ago

      Are they distilling?

      Distilling isn’t copying and redistributing, for the same reason that you reading a story and then writing your own story based on ideas you learned is different from you reading a book, writing all the words down verbatim, and then publishing it as your own.

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