Comment by BrokenCogs

5 hours ago

Gemini 3.8 flash seems to (subjectively) be the outlier in terms of performance to cost ratio?

Google Gemini are the only team who have openly had staff deliberately spend time on SVG performance: https://twitter.com/sunjiao123sun_/status/202455551655137292...

See also this Jeff Dean tweet showing off their animals-in-vehicles abilities: https://twitter.com/JeffDean/status/2024525132266688757

  • It’s very likely they all add svg generation into the training data. It’s part of the reason it’s no longer a good benchmark (unless you need to generate SVGs).

    • It's about more than just training data. Every model since GPT-2 had SVGs in the training data, because they all used a scrape of the Web and the Web is full of SVGs. What's unique about Gemini is that they actively worked to get better results for their SVGs - maybe RLHF, maybe RLVF of some sort.

Its giraffe / grandfather clock one is pretty bad... (two necks? wearing a suit?)

Weird as well, it's clearly pulled out some 1884 patent on clock designs, and a quick ddg/google doesn't show it as anything to do with grandfather clocks.

Gemini 3.8 Flash results are often not very coherent but it does put a lot of shading and details to hide the fact.