Comment by eigencoder

12 hours ago

I'm naive on the law around this, but it seems like Amazon.com shouldn't have standing here. What Perplexity does, from my perspective, is essentially the same as when I allow Firefox, Chrome, or Safari (or any other browser software) to see my credentials and access Amazon's website on my behalf.

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jubilanti  12 hours ago

You're not using "standing" correctly, you're using it more to argue about the merits of the case. Standing is about filtering out frivolous lawsuits. One has "standing" to file a lawsuit when there is reason to believe these three questions could be answered in the affirmative, if a trial were to take place: Was the plaintiff harmed? Did the defendant cause that harm? Can the court rectify that harm?

It's not about what the answers to those questions are. Those are questions about the merits of the case, to be answered at trial. It's about if it should even go to trial.

advisedwang  12 hours ago

Amazon certainly has standing for how YOU access amazon, even if it was in a regular browser.

  • hightrix  12 hours ago

    Access, yes. Display the content delivered from amazon.com, no absolutely not.

    • bitpush  12 hours ago

      I'm trying to make sense of this and the best analogy I can find is using an example of physical products.

      1. I can walk into Apple Store and buy Apple device (this is similar to me opening the browser and accessing amazon.com

      2. If I'm busy, I can hire a person to go stand in line and buy the device (me asking Comet to shop on my behalf)

      The core question is does Apple (Amazon in this case) can block the hired help (Comet browser) from accessing the store.

      Most reasonable people would say "their store, their rules", so that goes to mean Amazon's website, Amazon's rules.

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40four  11 hours ago

Your feeling turned it to be correct. Amazon lost the case in the appellate court.

  • semiquaver  11 hours ago

    But not on standing grounds.

    And no, Amazon did not lose the “case”, which usually means “the whole lawsuit”. The current posture is still at the preliminary injunction stage. Amazon was granted a PI by district court (basically “perplexity, stop this now while litigation is ongoing”) and the appeals court overturned. Now the actual case can proceed at the district level.