Comment by spartanatreyu

2 hours ago

> AI is helping patch previously unrealized holes.

AI is also making plenty of holes.

I have not seen a single case of anything that an AI has found that could not have been automatically found without AI.

Mozilla had 400 Firefox CVEs found by Mythos; if those were so easy to find, why didn’t humans do it before?

  • Humans did do it before.

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    It's also worth pointing out that the developers at Mozilla literally decided to make a brand new programming language (Rust) that eliminated an entire categories of bugs and started working on a new browser (Servo) where its components could be switched into firefox.

    Then Mozilla fired the team working on it.

    Lesson 1: Better tools and processes eliminate bugs.

    Lesson 2: If you don't have the tools, make them.

    Lesson 3: Mismanagement leads to security vulnerabilities.

    • Yes, and even after introducing and using Rust, there were still vulns in the remaining code.

      FWIW, Rust is my main language, so I am grateful to the humans that created it, and it is indeed a monumental effort. But vuln finding is a different kind of creative endeavour, and one that is heavily weighted against defenders.