Comment by nelox

1 day ago

I would be surprised if it wasn’t by Russia. Russian infrastructure is being systematically destroyed by Ukraine with funding, training, intelligence and materiel from Europe. This is an attempt to discourage European support by disrupting Europeans.

Likely organized by farmer protest groups (FDF for example) to protest against emission restriction regulation. They are known for their dangerous stunts, including driving their tractors on the highway and spraying manure on government buildings. These actions are tolerated by the Dutch police, which willingly and purposefully refuses to punish these acts.

  • It's crazy how much deference is given to farmers compared to every other occupation.

    If the garbage men started dumping the contents of garbage bags in public places I bet they will not be given a free pass.

  • Farmers and right wing people in all of Europe are actively being disinformed by Russian intelligence service and either wilfully ignores it or too incompetent to realize it.

    • We are all being disinformed, whether it's by a foreign or our own government. This is not a problem unique to Europe, right-wingers, farmers or Russia. The goal is to have us fight while the powerful become even more powerful. It is important to be aware of this fact, it is not just "the other side I don't agree with" that are affected, and thinking of them as willfully ignorant or incompetent is what the powerful would like you to think (infighting is the goal).

      You are right in the sense that there is likely an underlying meddling causing these farmers to act this way. It does not excuse their actions.

    • We're all being misinformed by various interest groups. If you think you're immune and have some perfect understanding of reality, you're kidding yourself.

It is good for Russ.a even if they didn't even organize it: everybody thinks it's them, but they might not have even spent anything on it.

  • I don't think it's good for them. The more people see Russia as the enemy, the stronger the support for Ukraine.

  • I believe it will only accelerate the end of Putin and his regime, so I don't actually think this is good for Russia if it wasn't them.

Ockham's razor may be? Big protests are common on Prinsjesdag, particularly when sensitive decisions or policies are made. A local protest organisation is therefore significantly more likely than an organized foreign sabotage. If I were Putin and had foreign agents in the Netherlands I certainly wouldn't expose them this physically.

  • To be fair, Russia also sends people out to inflame active protests and try to push them into greater extremism.

It is russia, no surprises.

One has to be an idiot to assume otherwise at this point