Comment by gambiting
1 day ago
Define Europeans - us Poles absolutely understand the danger. In fact I'd say we're already at war with Russia, the way they attack our democracy, our institutions and politics daily. But someone in Portugal might not see it the same way we do.
Russians are Europeans.
Many Russians think of themselves not as European but as Eurasian, as if that's something different and special.
They have a whole political doctrine about it. It's crazy identity politics.
Part of Putin's war on Ukraine is that he doesn't want them to think of themselves as European either (although they obviously are).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasia#Russian_geopolitical_i...
Many, maybe even most Russians would like to be part of Europe, even if they would complain about the terms that would enable them to join pan European organizations. For now they are just potential Europeans.
Russia being part of Europe is a fact and not a preference. It seems like you want to see Europe as being united against Russia instead of this being an internal European conflict, which it is.
....half of Russia lies in Europe, if someone born in Moscow isn't European what are they?
Yes, obviously - but I'm not sure how that's related. Or maybe actually in fact it speaks of the fact that some terrorist acts within Russia were commited by or on the order of the Russian government.