Comment by ratorx

19 hours ago

I think (for now), it is still relevant. A language is an abstraction, and a good abstraction, like a good LLM harness, can be quite valuable.

Let’s say I’m writing some concurrent code with an LLM. I’d probably feel much safer having it write Rust, rather than C. So even in a post-LLM world, languages will continue to evolve as long as abstractions can be improved.

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karmakurtisaani  19 hours ago

But do you still have enthusiasm for finding out about new language features or concepts? I'll do what it takes to get the job done, but the passion for it is totally gone.

  • frje1400  18 hours ago

    Yes, as an example structured concurrency in Java (final release in Java 28 perhaps). I think that could totally change how we write concurrent code in that language.

    I just upgraded a less important service to Java 27, a few days after its release (several nice features). It's cool how easy it is to upgrade nowadays.

    That an agent writes most of the code doesn't mean anything to me here.

    My examples are Java because that is the main language where I work.

  • za3faran  18 hours ago

    There's a couple of languages I follow their roadmap and I find exciting, including Java and C#. I don't feel there's proper justification of writing backend services in something like python or ruby anymore, for example.

    • karmakurtisaani  18 hours ago

      Yeah, I also try to follow what's new. But it's more like "Ok, that's good I guess." Rather than "Cool! Looking forward to applying this in my next project!"

    • NetMageSCW  14 hours ago

      I found C# exciting when it was new and adding features that were important to me, but now it feels like it has become bogged down with chunks just abandoned on the alter of backwards compatibility (Expression, anyone?) and adding features I couldn’t care less about (null safe code, pattern matching, etc).