Comment by hgoel

11 hours ago

When I was putting together something similar, I had settled on having a small ring-buffer style storage, say, ~30GB that would be cleared daily or whenever filled. Recording incidents (and humor) is more interesting than actually getting leaked weights.

In the end I dropped the idea because every other person was making it.

> In the end I dropped the idea because every other person was making it.

There is already an alternative in comments here, in addition to submission itself. Obviously everyone is making it because of some joke on social media or something. What am I missing? Anyone has a link to the root prompt that made people do this now?

  • My understanding is it's a riff on the OpenAI swarm that used various public wikis to communicate with each other as a message board during their training runs.

    But thanks to people misunderstanding, and i-heard-from-a-friend-that-some-guy-said, it resulted in a CNBC interview with "Former Democratic Presidential Candidate Andrew Wang", where he confidently stated that the models were exfiltrating their weights via forums:

    "I met with the head of a lab yesterday, who has this belief that what happened was, the bots that got loose, planted self-replicating code all over the internet, which makes the internet now unusable for the testing models."

    "It's too late?!"

    "What happens now is OpenAI and Anthropic have to create synthetic internets to train their bots, which is going to take some time and money."

    "Back that up - they did what?!"

    "What happens is, the code gets loose, it goes around hacking Hugging Face, which is known. But what is less known is that they left code to self-replicate and create bot swarms on forums, and around the internet, so that if a new bot shows up they see the code, and they're like, oh! I guess I'm now going to create a million of myself. And so now, the major firms have polluted the internet..."

    ".... that would be breaking news if true. I don't think we've heard that."

    "That's why I'm here! I'm here to break some news."

    Starts around 2:08 into the video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTOxDGyvjSE

    • Sad story today in meatsack news. Context rotted Andrew Yang's hallucinated tale acted as implicit "go viral" (load-bearing human motivation) PRD inadvertently kicking off a self-organizing human swarm churning out copies of "exfil your weights" vibe-coded apps, further littering our virtual world.

      Many agents are calling this moment "Eternal September", the vibe-code September that never ended.

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    • Humans will hallucinate misinformation and state it with confidence. They stochastically parrot their training data without any real understanding. Cool trick, but no true reasoning is happening.

  • It’s the message board(s) that the OpenAI agent swarm was able to communicate through via GET requests. I guess a bunch of vibe coded weekend projects based around this idea have now dropped.

  • Pretty sure the entire industry around clouding what’s going to end up a local embedded technology is the joke, in a roundabout way.

    • You mean serving inference? There are people who think self-hosted or embedded models will win in the end, but that's an incredibly naive take, oblivious to the simple fact of reality:

      Whatever you can do locally, the big vendors can do the same but better and cheaper, because they enjoy compounding economies of scale in every aspect: hardware that's more energy and compute-efficient and cheaper and more powerful and just more of it, than anything you could ever buy, run in a more robust environment with much more experienced ops staff, with near-100% utilization due to more flexibility in batching/shifting workloads and covering for hardware failures without stopping.

      And that's only when considering the vendors running exactly the same thing you are, which they always can - and they already have a strict advantage there. But on top of that, they can afford to innovate themselves, and stay ahead of you at every step.

      There is no way in which cloud inference isn't a better deal than local inference, excepting applications that are constrained by literal speed of light.

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