Comment by tencentshill

6 hours ago

What an amazing excuse for lower than expected performance! Our models are slow because we're so ethical.

Thanks for spelling out what the original comment was implying.

I find it bizarre how intensely a bunch of these child/grandchild comments are criticizing the notion that people would even think to analyze the meaning behind the words.

Hacker News has always had a unique culture in which thoughtful discussion is basically the main goal, and it's intentionally incentivized in numerous ways. It's been my experience that any thoughts added to a post's conversation are seen as valuable as long as they are thoughtful and seeking to understand.

So these comments are clearly coming from a place that's antithetical to HN's culture. What that in mind, it seems likely to me (Occam's Razor) that these comments are either:

1. Astroturfing: Claude employees acting like everyday folks, secretly trying to shift public opinion.

2. AI cult mindset: "AI is humanity's salvation; how dare you have perspectives outside of those accepted by the cult."

Am I missing another likely option?

To bolster my point, right now we're posting on the top top-level comment, meaning a majority of active HN users find it to be a great addition to the conversation. Commenting to shut down the discussion is a red flag.

in what way is beating every other frontier model with their own second-tier model, 'lower than expected performance'? Please be specific.

  • Why would the expected performance be relative to other models?

    • are you really arguing that opus 5.5 beating the best of openai's models handily is worse than you expected? What exactly were you basing your expectations on?