Comment by delillos

6 hours ago

Getting to the point where these headlines depress me. I just wish they would stop getting better. I don't know where my career is gonna be in a few years.

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michelsedgh  5 hours ago

If you were alive right before industrialization, you probably would’ve been one of the people wishing that would stop too.

  • boelboel  5 hours ago

    +-3 generations of British people lived in roughly the same and in many cases worse conditions (life expectancy dropped during the early industrial revolution, severely in cities). As an average person you would not have been wrong to be against it. It was only in the 1860s-1880s that conditions got better because of bargaining power of the labour class and goodwill of some rich people, two things unlikely to repeat if something like AGI really happens.

  • delillos  2 hours ago

    Is the implication that industrialization was a net positive for our species?

    • mikeg8  31 minutes ago

      Not OP but that seems to be the implication. Let’s hear your argument against industrialization being net positive?

darkstar999  5 hours ago

Take solace remembering that we are all in the same boat.

In 1840 ~70% of the population was in agriculture. That is now ~2%. Things change.

vatsachak  2 hours ago

These things still can't solve problems in the right way. The benchmarks prove that they can solve problems. But in practice they will make your codebase look like the output of some compilation process

sthuck  4 hours ago

Expectations are a funny thing, a year ago I thought all software industry will cut at least 30% in a year. It's very far from happening. A big change is obviously coming but now I think I'm good enough to last at least the next 5 years, which suddenly feels like a long time if you see it coming.

The truth is despite these very impressive improvements, most impressive work done by agents require many iterations running in a loop, with tens of thousands of dollars in API pricing. And it's still far from being always reliable. Somewhere along the way hardware will get better, energy will be cheaper, the market will be flooded by chips. There a physical world issues that limit all of these for now, thank god. I think 5 years is a good number.

The real damage is that enterprise work became unbearable. Slop code with slop code review, and overly verbose emails with repetitive presentations. And on the other hand, I now enjoy "coding" for myself like I'm 16 again. All I want to do is sit at home and build apps for myself and family. I barely go to work

  • mattmaroon  3 hours ago

    I think the change might be orders of magnitude more software being written rather than an order of magnitude fewer developers. There is a HUGE induced demand coming when software is so cheap to write.

    I've never been a professional, but I've been coding for nearly 30 years as an amateur, and I've "written" more code in the last year than the previous 29, and it was all tooling for my very non-tech small business. It's cut HOURS out of my week, and it's all software I could not have afforded to pay developers for. But with Lovable, just describe it and iterate.

    What IS going to die is software as a service. I've cancelled hundreds of dollars a month of subs and rolled my own better tooling.

uncivilized  6 hours ago

We’re all gonna be meat proxies

  • slopinthebag  4 hours ago

    throughout all of human history we've responded to technological progress not by stagnating but by raising the bar. i dont see why it would be any different today. technology + human will always beat technology alone.