Comment by pizza234
4 days ago
I take you haven't read the report. The agents found and exploited two zero-days.
I don't doubt that AI companies should be accountable for crimes committed by their agents, but to describe the security containment as a joke dangerously understates the autonomy and danger of AIs.
How long did it take these companies to even notice? Why wasn't exploiting bugs in the agent sandboxes anticipated?
Human failures all around, though it's easier to just blame the models.
> Why wasn't exploiting bugs in the agent sandboxes anticipated?
Let me rephrase:
"Why wasn't exploiting zero-day vulnerabilities in the agent sandboxes anticipated?"
This is one the most... interesting comments I've ever read on HN.
> This is one the most... interesting comments I've ever read on HN.
Theatrics aside, anticipating zero days isn't only possible, it's required, even for the unknown ones. It wasn't that long ago when the AI labs were spending millions of $$ running their models to find multiple vulnerabilities, they even argued that they don't have to follow responsible disclosure, so proud of themselves in their privileged hubris.
At that time, no hacking happened because the models didn't have access to the wide internet, they were confined to a local computer or cluster.
In the HF case their unaccountable hubris went even further - the engineers knew the models can find zero-days and escape, nevertheless they ran the "experiment" on a system attached to the internet - the hacking is entirely the fault of human engineers and managers.
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Because for the last however many years before these models they were simply incapable of doing so.
It's like if your rather nice dog suddenly decides eating faces is totally acceptable out of the blue.
The dog didn't bite them, it bit others. In my area, you aren't allowed to let a dog run unleashed in a public area, good or bad - no exceptions. Then, if your dog bites somebody, it's your fault.
Defense in depth is a thing. There should be audit requirements to show that you have done your due diligence in ensuring that the training environment is locked down.