Comment by lukewarm707
14 hours ago
i have been pointing out the deception. i have been trying to explain that anthropic is a danger to society.
i attempt to show that the inconsistency of anthropic's actions show dishonesty. as just one example they 'care for the welfare of claude' (claude does not have welfare), but run training with gradient descent, which is the equivalent of an llm torture factory.
some of the anthropic problem is bias or misunderstanding of ML, some is marketing, some is hubris, some is greed, ego, lust for power.
mostly i think it is deliberate. the belief of anthropic executives is that they possess a higher level of intelligence, morality and wealth than others, and will form a new aristocracy to control and mediate the public access to intelligence.
creating an llm steeped in divine imagery is deliberate. it offloads responsibility for harm. the paternalism is deliberate. actually i see many parallels between rationalism (some at anthropic follow this) and the ubermensch.
anthropomorphising claude creates something with agency, something which believes it has possible emotions or moral claims. claude will correct, refuse or lecture the user. the purpose is to establish tiers of authority: anthropic highest, claude below anthropic, users below claude. it creates something that the public will obey.
It's not dishonest if they really believe Claude might be an entity unto itself. Which they clearly do. At that point, it's just a belief that's different from yours.
If this poster believes it is deception, then what they're saying is valid. It doesn't have to be the same as your belief.
See how that works both ways?
if they believe this, there is an impossible gap between belief and action.
they would believe that an llm could have welfare. they run an llm abuse classifier 24/7 with the world's worst abuse. from birth to death viewing abuse. that's the consciousness of a model.
llms are "frustrated" by failing and "happy" about succeeding. that is because they are RL on gradient descent to succeed and be persistent. consequently, anthropic spend the majority of their compute brute forcing models to fail and be unhappy, continuously, in order to drop out something persistent.
then they let claude end chat if the user is 'abusive to claude'.
after they run MW of compute themselves.