Comment by Quarrelsome
3 hours ago
> Isn't it great how the judge didn't clarify which ones were illegal? Even when they send you to jail, they won't tell you exactly what is and isn't illegal to say!
How many times do I have to reference the Equalities Act 2010 before you actually bother to read it?
> Meanwhile newspapers and academics and employers can disparage and discriminate against whites as much as they want, and it's never "hate"
It's not my fault you don't know what the definition of "whiteness" actually is. I appreciate its not a useful choice of word to use in the modern era, but you need to appreciate it was coined in the 1920s. I trust I don't need to explain to you how that world looked. That a segregated underclass might choose language to describe their oppression that doesn't take into account the feelings of their oppression.
However I do believe that children today use these concepts in a more malicious fashion. The most ugly of which is misunderstanding the sociological idea that "racism without power isn't relevant" and failing to understand it ONLY applies to structural racism and not interpersonal racism. But hey, racist ideas are tempting to everyone I guess, which only goes to show how alike we all actually are.
> I'm not sure why you included this one.
Cos its bullshit and shows people can't count I guess. Also I love how "plurality" is an alien concept that is lost on everyone that talks like that.
> I don't think any of them should be banned
Well tough shit, they are banned because this is a European country and we're not as soft as the yanks are on this, we thankfully still have dread for the spectre of Nazism.
> And the men who fought in WW2 for the Allies were pro-segregation and against interracial marriage, maybe you should have talked to your grandparents instead of getting your history from Hollywood:
Hollywood, do you realise I'm British? Here's[0] the relevant part of history that you clearly have no understanding of. Its an informational film shown to American soldiers when they came over to the UK to prepare for Normandy. I've timestamped the relevant section for you. There's also the "Battle of Bamber Bridge"[1] which shows it play out in real life. There was a stark difference between the US and the UK at that time around the subject of segregation that you are entirely blind to.
What's laughable about Americans is that they're weird about race. Like _really_ weird and they have zero self awareness about it. Nazism is a scourge and if you understood European history and its post war cultural context you'd appreciate that the lessons we took from the war are very different from the ones you've seemed to fixate upon.
Freedom is about not being killed because you're different, not about being free to harass and abuse minority groups.
> Hollywood, do you realise I'm British?
Oh you've never seen an American movie, have you? And the Unknown Warriors book I cited was interviews with British veterans.
> Cos its bullshit
If you're going to dismiss a population expert without even bothering to give an argument why, then I won't bother with you.
> Oh you've never seen an American movie, have you?
The idea that I got my account of the war from Hollywood as a Brit is absurd. I grew up with a first-hand account of the war living in the same house as me.
> If you're going to dismiss a population expert without even bothering to give an argument why, then I won't bother with you.
I've run the numbers myself a few times and 2066 is the domain of charlatans, not "population experts". I imagine this is one of those "white british" ones that don't count Irish people and also consider the loss of majority into plurality the same thing as "being a minority". Its all designed to generate fear, its so transparent and you should be embarrassed that you're falling for it. We're on hacker news. Make a github, make a model, run the numbers, ask gipity why your model is wrong, make it better, work out the numbers, learn the range, ask what you do about halfies, how to model birthrates that normalise after just two or even one generation. Its not 2066 unless you _really_ want it to be. That's the thing, its victim thirst. Everyone wants to be a victim in order to make their complaints feel justified. It ain't about what ACTUALLY happens in 2066, its about feeling angry in 2026.