Comment by FlyingAvatar
2 days ago
I would posit this is more of a function of Canada having too few machines, with a median wait of 10 weeks for an MRI. [1]
To me it's crazy that people are waiting an average of nearly 3 months to get imaging. This is probably after waiting a couple months for their doctor's appointment to get the MRI scheduled in the first place.
One of the reasons I left Canada was it took me 6 months to get an MRI after a severe head injury in 2017. I have since gladly paid nearly 500k in taxes to other countries. Fuck Canada.
If I were waiting that long I’d fly to SE Asia. I got one in Cambodia same week for $1200.
Multiple times in Southern California I’ve gotten an mri for like $350-400 next day, in a 3T machine with Simonmed.
You can easily find MRI in the US for less than half of that. Though a trip to SE Asia sounds nice.
Clearly you had the means... was it not possible to pay for private healthcare?
No, that's illegal. Thats what single payer means, only one payer is allowed [1].
Is meant to encourage rich people to support the health system since everyone's in it. But in reality the very wealthy go to Buffalo and immigrants visit their home countries.
It's also not lost on public policy experts that MAID has the potential of "solving" a lot of structural problems in Canadian health care and... long and behold MAID has expanded tremendously in ten years.
[1] with some exceptions largely grandfathered in
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For ~90% of the population, it’s right there under 200km away.
What does that have to do with the conversation here?
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That is kindof crazy! Imagine you are suspicious that something is awry in your soft tissue, in which case I think MRI is the main diagnostic (?). Then you don’t find out for ten weeks, plus some for analysis!
MRI's are expensive and difficult to amortize for poorer countries or ones that don't have a great healthcare system.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/282401/density-of-magnet...
Japan is a standout, and then you see most of the West just below them... Canada is way down the list.
> MRI's are expensive and difficult to amortize for poorer countries or ones that don't have a great healthcare system
Canada is towards the bottom. I see what you did there. I guess I never considered Canada a poor country or one with a bad healthcare system. But at the same time I was only there a few times to a major city and never interacted with their healthcare system.
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Waiting 10 weeks for an MRI is consistent with my experience in the US. This could be a regional thing. When my mom lived in her home state, she had nearly same-month or even same-week access to specialists. Now, living in my state, most appointments are booked more than a year out. She has talked about flying back to her home state every year to have her annual appointments. This is medical tourism within the country.
Not only did I have to wait for my MRI, but as the date approached, I got a call saying that they had canceled it because the insurance refused to cover it. I offered to pay out of pocket. Nope, they simply canceled it.
Of course if you can pay for quicker care in another country, it will seem like care in that country is quicker, but the people living in that country might not have the same privilege. Most of the people I know who move here from outside the US think our system is insane.
There's a billboard on my way to work for a private medical imaging service that offers shorter wait times.
Fwiw I’ve had next day non-emergency mri (and sadly same day emergency mri). And this was across 2 states. I absolutely believe that coverage is spotty. But mri machines are extremely common in most places in the US.
>https://getmrifast.ca/mri-wait-times
It's sad that seemingly the top result for this search term is an AI slop lead-gen site, rather than the actual source:
>Disclaimer: Wait times shown are estimates based on publicly reported data from the Fraser Institute, CIHI, and provincial health authority reports.
Also citing Fraser Institute, a known extremely right-wing hack "think tank" is like citing a used car salesman on the benefits of buying a car. Their entire raison d'etre is to privatize any remaining public good in Canada, so they will always hunt for any kind of information or data they can to paint whatever picture they want from their lobby funds.