Comment by otterley

2 days ago

> Does propaganda work? Evidence says yes.

What is the practical difference between propaganda from the inside and that from the outside? Internal propaganda is often much more dangerous than external propaganda because it has a patina of legitimacy. President Trump, as you may recall, gave Rush Limbaugh a Presidential Medal of Freedom for, among other things, legitimizing the racism and sexism and a fairy-tale version of America that eventually set the stage for his election.

I'd contend we should worry a lot less about what others are saying than what we are saying to each other. Yet it still doesn't mean we should censor speech.

> Very little is more existential to even the idea of a nation than the national identity, the in-group, out-group, etc. and that is what it is used for.

Who is the in-group? Who is the out-group? Who shouldn't be in? Are you sure they're not in already? Should a nation evolve or be the same as when they were founded? What evolution is ok? What's not ok?

All I can say is you seem profoundly confused about the situation if you think this reply is remotely relevant.

  • I think that the inability to answer challenging questions is a stronger indication of who lacks the understanding.

    My experience is that when people don't want to answer them, it's because they either 1/don't actually know the answers, or 2/are afraid of what their honest answers will reveal about them.

    • I already answered them. You just refuse to understand the circumstances. Why waste my time?

      Literally everything you seem to be arguing about has already happened, even on the platform you are arguing on, but you seem oblivious to it.

      It’s like arguing with a child about tax policy or something while they insist taxes are bad. Sure, but they are clearly not going to be able to do anything about it, and it isn’t even useful for anyone, so why waste the time?

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