Comment by jvwww

5 days ago

If only Europe could have produced a single frontier model company..

They don't need to. Frontier labs are all unprofitable, it's better value to redistribute China's open-weights models.

  • So why doesn't Europe with it's talent, money and institutions create an actually useful open source model rather than relying on China?

    The European attitude to technology is very strange to me. I'm very happy that I've been able to move to the US and leave it behind.

    • Plenty folks in Europe work for American businesses, including tech, it’s just super duper hard to scale a business as quick as it is in the US for a variety of reasons - regulation, funding, labor laws, euro idea of work life balance, …

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    • Why should they join in on a shoveling cash in to the fire competition? The winning move here is to just sit and watch the others waste all of their resource and to just take the free open source model that comes out at the end.

    • Again; they don't need to. Chinese open-weight LLMs are free and better than US models for security-focused work.

      As an American, I wish our country had fewer "frontier" labs. They are not profitable and will destroy the economy when (not if) they fail to achieve gross ROI.

    • I kid you not, the research cloud for Danish universities is deploying a "sovereign AI". Which means running GLM 5.3 on their Nvidia GPUs. All that while EU designates China a strategic threat.

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    • > So why doesn't Europe with it's talent, money and institutions create an actually useful open source model

      This question is based on the assumption that existing models are actually useful.

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    • A technology whose main selling point is that it will leave you without a job? What's wrong with Europeans, why don't they love this? Maybe because we don't have enough billionaires to convince us.