Comment by WarmWash
8 hours ago
>We live in a capitalist society, where the only ones allowed to thrive without work are the rich.
You know anyone can own the means of production in a capitalist society?
The irony of the anti-capitalist crowd is their extreme distaste for capital ownership, which leads them to never partake in the most fruitful part of capitalism. What truly makes this ironic is that if the evil capitalists wanted a plan to cement their power, it would look a lot like spreading "I will never become a filthy shareholder!" mentality.
>> We live in a capitalist society, where the only ones allowed to thrive without work are the rich.
> You know anyone can own the means of production in a capitalist society?
Don't be an idiot. I'm pretty sure you know your point is dumb, but I'll spell it out for you in case you don't:
Sure, "anyone" can own some of means of production in the current system, but not in large enough quantities to thrive without work. The vast majority of people aren't that rich.
> The irony of the anti-capitalist crowd is their extreme distaste for capital ownership, which leads them to never partake in the most fruitful part of capitalism. What truly makes this ironic is that if the evil capitalists wanted a plan to cement their power, it would look a lot like spreading "I will never become a filthy shareholder!" mentality.
What kind of idiocy is that? You're almost certainly talking about some imagined straw-man in your head, but pretty much all the "anti-capitalist" ideas I'm aware of are about distributing ownership of "shares" differently than in our current system.
I'm sure you think you're being very clever and making very powerful points, but stuff like what you've written actually makes the anti-capitalist case more appealing. I used to be a libertarian, but sustained contact with attitudes like yours changed my mind.
If you visit bogleheads, you'll see countless stories of people with modest middle class incomes (teachers even) who steadily saved and invested in the US stock market over 30 years and are now sitting on a comfortable nest egg of a couple of million in their 50's.
> If you visit bogleheads, you'll see countless stories of people with modest middle class incomes (teachers even) who steadily saved and invested in the US stock market over 30 years and are now sitting on a comfortable nest egg of a couple of million in their 50's.
OMG! There's this thing called retirement in old age? I've never heard of it. TIL! /s
Working your whole life in stable job to save up a nest egg (which you typically then proceed to spend down), in no way contradicts any of the points I was making.
Ok, sure, it's dumb. Go spend your money on shiny new things instead. I mean, as you certainly know and complain about, it just lines shareholder's pockets.