Comment by moregrist

4 hours ago

They only withdrew it after someone pointed out that it was a flawed paper.

In one case by asking Astra to review it.

Not exactly encouraging that they did their homework before publishing results.

This is how science is meant to work.

  • No, it's not how math works at all. Math is not experimental science. Results take years to formulate and are generally known to be true by colleagues via correspondence and seminars before a paper is even written. Retraction is very rare.

    I don't know why people are talking about something like this that they are clearly not familiar with.

  • Most good scientists work hard to prove results to themselves before going public.

    Peer review is then done _in private_ before publication as a check on quality and significance.

    Retracting a paper is pretty embarrassing. And not considered science as usual.

    • The greatest proof ever written by man, Andrew Wiles' FLT, was published with a flaw before being retracted and reworked. It's _completely_ normal in mathematics to find flaws in the argument. That's what peer review in mathematics is _for_.

      Besides which it's not clear if these papers are considered published or preprint since they appear in no journal, so it's not really a retraction.

      It's also very very normal to post preprints on Arxiv before peer review, so it's not the case that mathematics is kept private during review.

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  • Yes. A researcher who achieves a reputation of making mistakes carries that reputation.

  • No, scientists check their work before releasing it. Slop is still slop if you wrap it up as an academic result.