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Comment by mkobit

9 hours ago

I really enjoy this trope. The "Zelda Ocarina of Time if it were a modern game" series has the MGS style discussion, and the whole series is incredible.

Here is the forest temple video which is a short sample of what to expect: https://youtu.be/KC656o7_zVk

Jesus Christ. I hate it. So so much.

I've never been able to put my thumb on it, and I just chalked it up to me being older now, but I'm not a big fan of a lot of games. And this video opened the curtains as to why. Just so much hand holding and noise.

  • Did you like Myst? That was the complete opposite end of the spectrum.

    Title screen video gives a vague story. Game starts. No dialog. No text. Just ... clicking and discovering the rest of the story.

    • The market for video games is now on the close order of 1000 times larger than it was when Myst was released. It now includes the General Public, and all that entails.

    • I fucking loved that game. That and the Dr. Brain games define my childhood. Oh and gizmos and gadgets. And Commander Keen. And Descent. And Hillsfar. And Deathtrack.

      But also yes, I did enjoy Myst. It's also what I enjoyed about Minecraft when it first came out. You just had to figure your shit out or get killed by zombies.

  • I don't remember which game it was, but I'm pretty sure it was a ubisoft game, maybe AC3, where it felt so much like a tutorial that I spent the entire game wondering when I'd get out of the tutorial and onto the real game.

    It ruined the game for me, because I never felt like I was let free to actually play the game.

  • Video games make more money than all of Hollywood combined.

    They’re not niche geeky things, they are the most mass of mass media. Their target market includes the the people for whom the “do not ingest” label appears on bottles of bleach, as well as the parents for whom the “this is not a toy” appears in huge letters on plastic packaging bags.

    Of course they have to say things in the simplest possible language, repeated 3 times in text AND audio. Otherwise half of their audience will be confused and frustrated, because they have two digit IQs.