Comment by PunchyHamster
9 hours ago
Don't have HOA, have everything you have, AMA
all of those services are ones that should be realized by the city, from taxes paid to the city. If they are not, the problem is that people vote for wrong people
9 hours ago
Don't have HOA, have everything you have, AMA
all of those services are ones that should be realized by the city, from taxes paid to the city. If they are not, the problem is that people vote for wrong people
The problem with having the city pick things like your trash pickup is that you end up bound to whatever choices they make.
In Canada for instance, I’ve seen towns where they have pick up once every two weeks and the canister is not even a full size one. It’s a “gentle” push to get people to recycle and compost.
No way that would fly in Freedom Town USA.
This worked in Australia. People complained for like a month, and then just started using the food scraps bin and got over it.
Miracle is garbage doesn’t stink if you don’t put food in it.
My current US city has municipal trash. My previous US city had municipal trash. It definitely “flies” here.
HOAs in general are nothing but classic American privatization of that which would otherwise be public, because counties and cities here either lack the tax base (rural), budgeting skills (urban), or both, to provide the services some subdevelopments are built with.
It’s dumb. Here in Washington it’s rather common, I’m finding, for rural land plots to be part of a “Road Maintenance Association”. Exact same legal construct as an HOA, but scoped only to road maintenance on roads the county didn’t want to deal with. It would make so much more sense for the county to socialize those roads and reuse the same maintenance crews and vehicles for these stretches of road! But instead, a private entity pays through the nose to duplicate all that maintenance infrastructure (or pay contractors).
The way I see it many HOAs are the opposite of privatization, at least when they cannot be opted out of. They control land, impose taxes (sorry, "fees"), have elected leadership, provide services, make rules that they have the power to enforce, and the only way to leave them is to move out of their territory.
In my eyes this is essentially the same thing as a form of local government, just on a smaller scale.