Comment by gib444

13 hours ago

Me too.

EU average is just under 29c/kWh (non-contract price) [0]

In the UK I got 27.5c/kWh (+ 58c/day fixed charge) on an 18-month contract a month ago

[0] https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php...

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snazz  10 hours ago

That is expensive. If it makes you feel better, U.S. utilities' published kWh rates don't include a whole bunch of other things that make bills much higher than you'd imagine. For example, I used 280 kWh last month for my apartment, at a nominal rate of either 11 or 13 c/kWh (the rate changed from 13 to 11 partway through the month as it got cooler).

But after all the "sales true ups" and "affordability charges" and "resource adjustments" and "fuel cost charges" and "interim rate adjustments", not to mention the city fees and sales tax, the final bill divided by my usage gave me an effective rate of 23 c/kWh.

  • Y_Y  9 hours ago

    That sounds horrible, even in Europe deceptive and abusive tactics towards taking people's money are a constant hazard. I can't imagine trying to exist without even what little protection we have.

    • Aurornis  6 hours ago

      Utilities are actually highly regulated in the US. Those rates and fees are publicly available and explained when you get your service, for what it’s worth.

      Utilities have to argue for rate increases and get them approved by regulators, so they’re not just dropping fees on top of everything as they please from month to month.

      Really nobody should assume that their service is flat rate with a slope down to $0/month if you consume 0kWh. There are fixed and marginal costs in every service like this.

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    • snazz  8 hours ago

      There is a state utility regulator that is supposed to ensure this stuff is fair, and it is disclosed ahead of time. Regardless, for small energy users like me, the fixed costs and extra fees are a huge percentage of the total. Thankfully the total electricity bill is not terribly consequential for my household budget.

Hamuko  12 hours ago

My thought was that the EU average can't be that high, but apparently Finland is just the outlier here.