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Comment by mccoyb

1 day ago

If the software coming out of OpenAI and Anthropic is what we have to judge, I wonder about the 5000 ...

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that the models are some multiplicative factor better on the inside.

Doesn't that mean the demos should work?

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spiderice  1 day ago

I'm confused.. are you suggesting that Claude Code / Codex don't work? Because if you're still saying that in October 2026, it's a you problem. You're doing something wrong.

  • mccoyb  1 day ago

    No, I’m talking about the recent DevDay.

    Also, yes there are still bugs in Claude Code. I experience them nearly everyday.

    It is markedly better than early days, but still not the best harness.

    The best software written with agents seems to come from people outside of the labs (see pi, for instance — or all of cloudflare’s recent work)

    Which makes me question either the model, or the holders …

  • lillesvin  1 day ago

    I don't use either myself but I'm in a position where I get to see what it produces for other people. Here's a recent (2-3 months old) example: A zsh script that immediately invoked a Python interpreter that immediately invoked a shell command and iterated over each line of output looking for one of a few strings to match... So, `<cmd> | grep "(stringA|stringB|stringC)"`, but a whole lot dumber.

    Thanks, but no thanks, I don't need that kind of code in anything I'm working with.

  • plorkyeran  1 day ago

    Claude code is an incredibly buggy mess. I have never used any other TUI that regularly has rendering errors or that is anywhere as laggy as Claude.

  • well_ackshually  1 day ago

    Claude Code still doesn't have a working scroll back buffer in their new renderer, it regularly flips its shit and mixes different pieces of history.

    Claude Code still can't get reasonable performance without writing a "game renderer" (that doesn't work)

    Claude Code is still written in JavaScript, eating hundreds of megabytes to make a shitty TUI whose literal sole role is to send API calls.

    Claude Code is software made by amateurs.

    • vehemenz  9 hours ago

      I've seen this opinion elsewhere, but it's not clear how their TUI decisions actually affect the functionality of the software.

LastTrain  1 day ago

It’s like the aliens paradox. If AI can build killer software already, where is it?

  • equinumerous  1 day ago

    Couldn't agree more. I find a new bug in the VSCode Codex extension every day... quantity != quality!

    • agentdev001  1 day ago

      I have a feeling that the team working on the VSCode Codex extension is one guy, who begrudgingly takes down a couple tickets every other week.

  • shermantanktop  1 day ago

    One solution to the aliens paradox is that they are so advanced they can hide from us. Maybe the killer software is kept inside the labs? I doubt it.

j2kun  1 day ago

Unfortunately, marketing, hype, and venture capital overshadows any serious public discussion of capabilities.

  • AndrewKemendo  1 day ago

    Be the change you want to see in the world: Attend or host an AGI society event to have that conversation:

    agi-society.org