Comment by 5G_activated

8 days ago

You have described, at a high level, passkeys.

Well, it's a fair question why Webauthn ended up so much more complicated, which has unquestionably been a hindrance to adoption.

  • Because the various cloud providers want to lock you into their own proprietary ecosystem, of course. How else could they in the future force you to pay a subscription to be allowed to log in to any website?

  • Backwards compatibility. Webauthn is the same standard that has been used for physical security keys for decades. Passkeys are a simplification UX layer on top of decades of hardware support and a complex ecosystem of key providers and key types.

  • 1. It's not that complicated

    2. The complexity in the standard is there to ensure things are done securely (think: not doing password checking via comparison loop).

    3. The unnecessarily complexity in individual implementations in websites and passkey stores is due to general baseline corporate "incompetence".

  • Admittedly, my experience comes from OAuth and Webauthn. I have yet to try to implement passkeys. My exposer to passkeys comes completely from long blog posts complaining about it.

    • A passkey is webauthn you can use on another device, if you choose to store the key in a place that can be shared. Passkeys also include a protocol where you can log in over BLE from (for instance) your phone to your computer if you store your keys on a different device than the one you're logging into.

      If you use webauthn, you're already using passkeys.

    • Passkeys is just a new brand name and UX flow on top of Webauthn. If you've handled Webauthn keys before you have already seen the code to "implement" passkeys.