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Comment by ProblemExplorer

1 day ago

The title is either a letdown or clickbait - I'm unsure which. You could say "Blah. Using It Well Takes Skill." for any value of Blah.

"The transmission in your car: Using It Well Takes Skill."

Further, Claiming AI is a tool is overly reductive. It's as much a tool as a full self driving car is a car.

You can treat the full self driving car, as a car, driving it with full attention and effort like you would have a Camry but then you paid for features you're not using. Also, some full self driving cars might not even have the steering and braking controls as a Camry. That's not the point of a full self driving car and this warped perspective will make you lose out to people who use a full self driving car well, to its utmost, safe capability.

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So what is the "AI" we are so excited about currently?

That "AI" is most likely an intelligent (semi-autonomous?) agent.

Depending on the intelligence, it can be as useful as a dog, scanning your camera feed for threats and identifying real threats for you, separating activity from tree leaves moving due to the wind or a moving shadow cast by a flying bird.

Or it can be your co-founder, interviewing potential customers, finding and exploring their pain-points, helping you figure out if there's a gap in the market you can build a business around.

I would go even far as to say, AI is having such a moment because AI are cheap intelligent agents - anything else that's remotely close are likely humans that cost atleast a few dollars an hour.

All of these require skill on your part - there's nothing special or unique about AI that makes skill special just like operating the transmission in your car requires skill.

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Also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50060269

You’ve gone from extreme to another. From “it’s just a tool that be skillfully wielded” “to it’s an agent which do the task you gave it”.

There’s another pov where I am providing agent with tools/setup/etc to amplify its abilities, and that does require skill.

  • > You’ve gone from extreme to another. From “it’s just a tool that be skillfully wielded” “to it’s an agent which do the task you gave it”.

    I'm responding to your comment because I need your help in rephrasing my comment above to make my point more clear, because the way I wrote it obviously misled you.

    No, I didn't say the extreme (what would the extreme even be?).

    What I literally wrote down is what I said, which is that using anything (be it a tool that is not autonomous or a fully autonomous agent like a very smart, capable human being) requires skill.

    Imagine you and I are working on a team project together. In majority of real-life situations I'm not just going to point at a writing with my fingers to you and from there you figure out what needs to get done and you would magically do it without any further feedback. That's not how anything remotely useful and productive in this world works.

    What's more likely to happen is we have a conversation, figure out how to break the task down, together, how to coordinate, how to cooperate, and how to stitch our results back together to complete the job.

    As you can see this requires skill at every point.

    Hence, the point I was making is that the article is either clickbait or the author doesn't understand how the world works: anything remotely useful and productive in this world requires skill (be it the use of a dumb tool like a welding torch or cooperation, working with something as smart as a very capable autonomous agent or human being).

    • > because I need your help in rephrasing my comment above to make my point more clear

      Sure. The bulk of your post reads as sharp criticism of “AI is a tool and needs requisite skills to operate”, promoting the idea that “AGents will do the thing for you”. Suddenly the last paragraph landed with “both AI and tools need requisite skills to operate”. By the time I got to the last paragraph I already made up my mind about your message and the contrast between two positions was far too small to jolt my attention.

      The key improvement you can make is to spell out juxtaposition earlier.

      Reverse engineering your original argument, and with benefit of your second comment, the juxtaposition is that the skill of wielding a hammer and the skill of operating AI are on the opposite ends of control / cooperation spectrum. The distance is in fact so huge that using hammers at starting point is naive at best and clickbait at worstt.

      This brings me to my second point. Both of your comments are emotionally charged with incredulity. This did not put me, or you, into the mode of curious thinking.

      As to the substance. If we were to stick with the frame of control / cooperation I would take a position closer to yours. The author is not clueless, they are early in their “journey” from left to right. We all are early, meaning that no matter where you are there is someone else right of you.

      However, I found that frame far too constrictive yand left it behind about a month ago. I’d be happy to elaborate if you’re still reading. :)