Comment by crent

6 days ago

Yeah this is basically where I’m coming from. We know they are pre-ipo, subject to marketing hype, and many of us have a distrust for large tech providers regardless because we understand the incentive structures in place to act unethically. That in no way diminishes the possible threat model being discussed here. In my opinion, it helps the very company being criticized by deflecting the conversation onto a defeatist topic (i.e. “shady large company!!!”) instead of focusing on the plausibility and potential paths forward from a security perspective.

Tangentially related, I find myself saying, “people in general have no capacity for nuance” more and more. Probably every single day. I feel like this mindset crept into the HN hive mind over the last 10 years so it’s a bit frustrating to see a space I always felt good about having multi-faceted debates on turn into a forum full of the same attitude I find on Facebook and Reddit. That’s the cycle I suppose…

Yes, and that may be due to an influx of bots, unfortunately. Otherwise the core HN crowd has historically been nuanced and thoughtful. Some of the more recent HN data analysis posts also show how just overall submission and comment volume has increased substantially in the current AI moment, so along with that comes these sorts of negative effects.