Comment by vallerie
25 days ago
It's a major selling point, for one. They actively sell their products on privacy to the average person and an exposé would harm their image quite significantly.
That said they are not perfect - e.g their wording in their own tracking consent prompts vs the ones they force on others.
> It's a major selling point, for one.
That's marketing. Do you always trust everything in marketing material?
Apple has done more than literally any other technology company to limit their own ability to ever access your personal data.
Always missing from the paranoid lunatic side of this discussion: what devices do you use? I presume you do all your computing on an abacus?
> Apple has done more than literally any other technology company to limit their own ability to ever access your personal data.
Quite a bold statement. How do they compare with technology companies such as proton, signal... ?
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Personally I don't deny those claims. I question their motive. Most people don't care much about anything except camera/microphone/location access, so why invest so much into engineering all of these solutions? Are they just morally superior to others? Or are they using the reputation they created for themselves to justify locking down their platforms? Because there are things only Apple can be trusted with?
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> Apple has done more than literally any other technology company to limit their own ability to ever access your personal data.
I mean, it's what they _say_ they do. Do we know?
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It's paranoia now to question a 4 Trillion dollar company?
I presume truth and facts are important, no?
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No, but when they make claims in marketing material and then lie, it opens them to huge liability. So there is an enforcement path.
I trust that when they don’t do it perfectly, a million nerds are going to scream “finally! Gotcha!”
…while running far worse stuff themselves, the whole time.
Yet, most people fall for the E2E-encrypted iMessage story, while the Messages are only encrypted at rest when you have iCloud Backup enabled (I’d guess most people) and ADP disabled (I’d guess most people). The fact that I have ADP enabled doesn’t matter because most people I communicate with don’t have ADP enabled (or know what it is).
This is all only mentioned in the footnote of an iCloud security document [1].
Apple cares about your privacy, so much that they made a backdoor through bad defaults, well in reach of the CLOUD Act.
[1] Footnote 9 in https://support.apple.com/en-us/102651
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