“The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.” — Anatole France
Treating people equally does not mean treating them the same (or, why don't healthy people get to be hospital patients, too?).
> You're talking about a generation of white men who were told growing up that treating people differently based on skin color was the worst thing they could do.
There’s a linguistic sleight of hand that you’re using here that belies your emotional attachment to this topic.
It’s not that “treating people differently based on skin color” was the worst thing, it was that using skin color as a basis for discrimination, harassment, and even violence was the worst thing you could do.
You’re equating these two things:
- giving children who grew up in zip codes with terrible education outcomes a handicap during college admissions
- lynching
… which I find laughably monstrous and points to a convenient ignorance of history
Centuries of discrimination against whole populations (women, non-whites) and I'm supposed to get bent out of shape that a university is preferring to admit people of those discriminated groups?
Given all the other advantages my male whiteness has benefited me, I think I can look past that.
(Not willfully blind, just keeping everything in perspective.)
Don't confuse rational discourse for "victimhood". Finding reasoned discourse difficult to understand and centering it around "victimhood" is ironically an effeminate trait.
“The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.” — Anatole France
Treating people equally does not mean treating them the same (or, why don't healthy people get to be hospital patients, too?).
Men have been getting gold stars for women's achievements for centuries. The discovery of DNA is a perfect example.
I thought the point was to improve the world and correct injustices, not just get revenge. Two wrongs don't make a right.
We are trying to correct injustices. What revenge seeking do you see?
It's hard for me to understand the sense of victimhood I sometimes see from other White men.
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> You're talking about a generation of white men who were told growing up that treating people differently based on skin color was the worst thing they could do.
There’s a linguistic sleight of hand that you’re using here that belies your emotional attachment to this topic.
It’s not that “treating people differently based on skin color” was the worst thing, it was that using skin color as a basis for discrimination, harassment, and even violence was the worst thing you could do.
You’re equating these two things:
… which I find laughably monstrous and points to a convenient ignorance of history
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Centuries of discrimination against whole populations (women, non-whites) and I'm supposed to get bent out of shape that a university is preferring to admit people of those discriminated groups?
Given all the other advantages my male whiteness has benefited me, I think I can look past that.
(Not willfully blind, just keeping everything in perspective.)
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He was talking about the opinion of other white men, not Bangladeshis angry on our behalf
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Don't confuse rational discourse for "victimhood". Finding reasoned discourse difficult to understand and centering it around "victimhood" is ironically an effeminate trait.
I wasn't specifically addressing the person I was replying to—speaking instead to the general victimhood I see on display when this topic comes up.
I've lost friends to the "man-o-sphere" that think women and minorities have it easy, it's the white male that is being persecuted.
Pathetic.
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Most conferences claim to be for everyone, but are really geared towards white cis men.