Comment by Geezus_42

5 days ago

Why do you find it concerning that a conference would focus on women?

I don’t think they were expressing concern, just the fact.

I read it as a damning indictment against anti-“DEI” fanatics that they’re on the wrong side of history when they push the envelope too far in the direction of “merit-based hiring”, as if DEI was something relatively-recently concocted.

Laughably, in the days before “DEI”, “merit-based hiring” usually equated to “good old boys club”. Based on the industries in which I’ve been involved, it’s still very much “good old boys club”, despite best efforts for DEI to try to make things more merit-based.

  • That's exactly what merit based means. Look at the people picked by the current admin.

    • Nobody claims that political appointments are "merit based." They're by definition political. But university admissions and employment are supposed to be merit based, not political.

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Huh? Someone saying something is a DEI concern does not mean they find it concerning.

  • "Having a specific conference for women in computing is definitely a DEI concern;"

    The phrasing is ambiguous.

    A specific conference celebrating women in a field they have been historically underrepresented in is exactly what DEI is about.

    So for whom is this a concern? I am guessing for people who are anti-DEI?

    Again, the phrasing does not make it very clear.

    • In "Having a specific conference for women in computing is definitely a DEI concern" I take concern to be the noun, Mirriam-Webster (1a) or (2) has something that relates or belongs to one : affair, from the context this would seem to be the definition that fits: DEI relates to such a conference, they're interested in it, rather than definition (1b) an uneasy state of blended interest, uncertainty, and apprehension which would lead to "concerning" but makes no sense in the context, as you note.

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  • “The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.” — Anatole France

    Treating people equally does not mean treating them the same (or, why don't healthy people get to be hospital patients, too?).

  • Men have been getting gold stars for women's achievements for centuries. The discovery of DNA is a perfect example.

  • Most conferences claim to be for everyone, but are really geared towards white cis men.