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Comment by _DeadFred_

4 days ago

'I'm not racist against blacks, I'm just pointing out crime statistics in certain communities' vibes

If that's your first instinct, then by your standards no country can be criticized for much of anything. After all, pointing out the negative outcomes of a purposefully designed system is the exact same as prejudice based on immutable birth characteristics.

  • No country's people should be blanket stereotyped. That's my first instinct. 'why are people from xyz nation more likely to be associated with(negative thing)....'. nah, fuck that kind of talk.

    • Where did you see me saying that? I didn't even mention any people or generalize that all of them are this or that. Saying that cyberwarfare companies are more likely to be in Israel, which is what I did, seems like the most objective way of framing my observation. Other replies already gave some good reasons for why that may be, and all of them have to do with the systems built within the country, not some inherent property of their people. They could change these systems if they wanted to, it's not inherent to them.

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    • I'd rather have nations be held accountable for being bad global participants than hiding behind cries of -isms. Israelis can always elect a better government if they don't like the stereotypes the current one earns them.

      You might also look into the tale of the boy who cried wolf. The more you keep shoutin "antisemtism" in an attempt to shut down criticism the more people will learn to just ignore that word or ascribe to it a meaning far different from the one you want.

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    • Oh well, each individual must be judged on their actions and merits, but this doesn't prevent us from observing how groups behave on average. Nobody ever shouted racism when it's said that French are chauvinistic or that Germans follow rules strictly- it won't and shouldn't tell you anything about single individuals but you know there's a grain of truth in the generalisation.

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