Comment by buellerbueller
4 days ago
>Right, this discussion totally isn't being used as a bash Israel/isrealis as inherently bad with lots of blanket statements.
I see lots of (maybe un-carefully-worded, maybe?) bashing of the actions of the current Israeli government, and its defense forces and intel apparatus.
That's 100% fair game, anywhere on the planet.
What's I don't see is the rank antisemitism you claim, except for a few outlier recently-created accounts.
The most despicable thing I see at scale in the conversations is the attempt to silence critics of Israel with slanderous accusations of antisemitism. It used to work, as a tactic, but it (like the "racism card") has been vastly overplayed and is rapidly losing its value.
Your fair discussion distilled:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50112408
"it's the shiftiness of jews'. Racism doesn't exist anymore, and calling these discussion anti-semitic is me just shielding isreal as a tactic. Fuck off.
> "it's the shiftiness of jews'. Racism doesn't exist anymore, and calling these discussion anti-semitic is me just shielding isreal as a tactic. Fuck off.
Can't find the quoted phrase in the referred comment: did you just make it up or did he edit it out? Other than that, he made some observations about Judaism. Off-topic perhaps but nowhere near racist. Fuck off.
If you think that one person's comment is the distillation of the whole thread, then you're not paying attention to the rest of the thread (or very knowledgeable about statistics). I clearly acknowledged the existence of antisemitism in these discussions, but also that it is an outlier. Good job, you found the outlier! Hooray!
>Racism doesn't exist anymore
Who said that?
>calling these discussion anti-semitic is me just shielding isreal as a tactic.
Yes, when the discussion is about the current government of Israel, the IDF, its intel apparatus, and their actions.
>Fuck off.
When you have no point, use anger.
Ah I shouldn't call out what I think is racism because 'it doesn't have impact' anymore. Nah. You think labeling nations /communities and by extension their peoples is fine. I don't. It's simple as that.
I didn't attempt to silence anyone. I simply called out what I see. Silencing is what HN does when they moderate the Ukraine Russian discussions different than their newer standard for Israel Palestine.