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Comment by beejiu

4 days ago

Did we forget about Snowden?

Everyone knows Snowden so I guess it was quite big scandal

  • Everyone knows Snowden was a bad boy who got himself into trouble.

    That’s as much as your mom knows.

    • Circles probably matter. I am actively in communication with several hundred people of all ages outside of tech. I have never heard anyone say anything except: (1) positive of Snowden, and (2) negative of the NSA.

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And Gitmo, lies leading to invasion of Iraq, Abu Ghraib, all of the times we whoopsies a JDAM into a school or wedding…

But yeah the country under an eternal international microscope is the one “getting away with it.”

  • US gets away with it because no one can challenge their military might, Israel gets away with it because any criticism of the state is “anti-Semitic”. Not the same thing

    • Even the US had big scandals with Abu Ghraib and waterboarding, with big public debates. Even if this was just about public image and hypocritical, not about real values, it shows some capacity for shame.

      Though this may be changing now with Trump and the israelification of america.

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    • No one can challenge our military might?

      ...Did you just emerge from a bunker that you entered in 1946? Here in 2026 we're on quite a losing streak against MUCH weaker opponents. I mean I get it, you're doing the "Jewish conspiracy" thing and reality, truth, words having meanings are all inconsequential to you, but you have to try harder than this.

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