Comment by overfeed

3 days ago

> Model weights are facts.

Only in the way a math textbooks are facts. Model weights are bits on a medium,designed and derived from the combined efforts, judgement and expertise of many humans, before and after training.

Software bits have been copyrighted for so long, there are 5¼" floppies with "(c) 1977" printed on them.

Aren't model weights the output of human (?) authored software? The training software might have received creative input, but not the weights themselves. And if the training data itself counts, then the copyright would not be the labs, who stole the training data, but all the creatives who's works were used.

  • Aren't model weights the output of human (?) authored software? The training software might have received creative input, but not the weights themselves

    How does this legal theory square with output of a compiler? Or pictures generated by photo-editing suites when humans tweak color levels?

    • Both your examples take human authored input and transform them in a pretty direct way.

      I addressed this by saying if the training data counts as the human input, then the creative authorship of the weights are all the creatives that involuntarily supplied the training data -- not the labs training the models.

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