It’s both true that Elon lies and overpromises damn near everything, and that Tesla has the best self driving related features available in the US that a normal person can buy and use.
There's no formal definition for "full self driving". But perhaps we could tease out a definition we can both accept. Let me start. My elderly Dad is a legal licensed driver who drives every day. FSD drives much better than my Dad in every way you can possibly measure. Can my Dad fully self drive or not?
>FSD drives much better than my Dad in every way you can possibly measure. Can my Dad fully self drive or not?
Your Dad cannot fully self drive (I am a huge fan of Tesla FSD given that no other equivalent option exists in the market at that price point, but I have had to take over and drive it, at least as of the most recent free demo last Christmas season).
A more objective definition is any entity that is not willing to take on the financial liabilities of driving is not capable of full self driving. The minute Tesla says they agree to take on full liability is the minute I buy and use FSD for all of my trips.
It’s both true that Elon lies and overpromises damn near everything, and that Tesla has the best self driving related features available in the US that a normal person can buy and use.
Cute how you have to caveat your claim with "a normal person can buy and use."
I suspect the decision to put unfinished FSD into the hands of average people will be Tesla's undoing. I wouldn't cite it as a win quite yet.
Yes because nobody can buy a Waymo, and nobody else is even close.
There are a couple Chinese companies with better tech, but you obviously can’t get those in the US.
They’ve been selling it for a decade, when exactly do you expect it to undo them?
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So where was it claimed Tesla achieved full self driving?
There's no formal definition for "full self driving". But perhaps we could tease out a definition we can both accept. Let me start. My elderly Dad is a legal licensed driver who drives every day. FSD drives much better than my Dad in every way you can possibly measure. Can my Dad fully self drive or not?
>FSD drives much better than my Dad in every way you can possibly measure. Can my Dad fully self drive or not?
Your Dad cannot fully self drive (I am a huge fan of Tesla FSD given that no other equivalent option exists in the market at that price point, but I have had to take over and drive it, at least as of the most recent free demo last Christmas season).
A more objective definition is any entity that is not willing to take on the financial liabilities of driving is not capable of full self driving. The minute Tesla says they agree to take on full liability is the minute I buy and use FSD for all of my trips.
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