Comment by lucideer

1 day ago

EU safety regs are pass/fail - there's no sources stating Tesla have exceeded anything there, they need to pass in order to be sold in Europe, so they've done whatever the minimum required is for that. To do so, they've needed to make numerous compromises & changes to their cars to make them fit for the EU market - notably no FSD. Hardly indicative of a car brand that exceeds anything.

As for US safety standards, that seems a lower bar...

  > EU safety regs are pass/fail - there's no sources stating Tesla have exceeded anything there, they need to pass in order to be sold in Europe, so they've done whatever the minimum required is for that. 

That falls under the purview of my phrasing "meet or exceed the absolute highest safety regulations in the US and in Europe". They meet European regulations and exceed US regulations.

  • > falls under the purview of

    Yup I wasn't making out that your statement was technically incorrect, just irrelevant.

Europe requires removal of FSD. US safety standards "seems a lower bar"

Quite ironic.

  • Isn’t FSD fully allowed in the Netherlands?

    • It was recently allowed in Denmark, and the promotional video Tesla released showed the car driving through a "no vehicles" sign with FSD.

    • Tesla's assisted driving is allowed in a lot of EU countries under varying conditions & caveats. It's a modified version of what's called "FSD" in the US, & while Tesla still market the feature under the "FSD" name in Denmark & NL, the name has been challenged as false advertising in other EU countries (e.g. Germany) & they've had to market it under a more conservative label like "Assisted" or whatever.

    • Not "fully". NL approved a modified version of FSD different from the version used in USA.