Comment by waingake
21 hours ago
What's interesting to me is how high DeepSeek is on these graphs considering it is so cheap you don't think about it (like $5 usd per month cheap.)
21 hours ago
What's interesting to me is how high DeepSeek is on these graphs considering it is so cheap you don't think about it (like $5 usd per month cheap.)
when something is that cheap, just remember, you're giving something valuable to the people selling you that thing
Just an unrelated PSA that Anthropic trains on your Claude code sessions unless you disable it:
https://www.anthropic.com/news/updates-to-our-consumer-terms
I mean, same goes for OpenAI. Why point out only Anthropic?
For OpenAI they also have a separate opt-out for stopping training on your codex environment:
"Codex has a separate Include environments setting in Codex settings that controls whether additional context from your Codex environments can be used to train OpenAI models. Changing your ChatGPT setting or opting out through the Privacy Portal does not change that setting." https://help.openai.com/en/articles/7730893-data-controls-in...
nonono when Anthropic does it, it's a fair business practice, when Chinese companies do it, it's evil. See also "distillation"
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Not necessarily, you can buy low priced Deepseek inference also from many services that guarantee ZDR and GDPR compliance. My personal rule is: Never buy inference from those who also train models, because they have an inherent incentive to abuse your data to train their models.
Also because the independent services won't have incentive to resell your data. (to have another income and therefore make their inference cost lower, enabling them to gain over competition)
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Or, when something is that cheap, it's going to take multiple tries to get it right anyway, so you might as well build that into the cost.
If it's not cheap you might be doing the same thing ...
No, it's open source and is actually cheap to run, while performing the same, which is why it is being run and provided by 31 different providers for Openrouter.
Given its open weight you can actually calculate the cost of running it and see if that makes sense to you or not. There is a whole ecosystem of providers serving deepseek models at the same low price, hosted in the US or the EU, with zero data retention terms.