Comment by igetspam
12 hours ago
Agreed.
It doesn’t have to be better, it just had to be nearly equivalent. I’ve been doing a lot of vulnerability work lately (trying to get ahead of the bots finding exploits in our code) and the frontier models feel like a chaperone at a church dance: get too close and they show up with the ruler and enforce the safety margin. Using deepseek and glm and qwen, I’ve gotten nearly equivalent results without the constraints. I still use frontier models for things but outside of a company environment, I’m happy to spend 1/10 the money, get the same results, and not have try and trick the AI into working.
Yeah I've been doing this since even before you could run DS via claude code, it's damn near the same quality with plenty instances where claude had to eat a hat and a shoe and use DS corrections.
American folks really have a distorted sense of reality and few have their own mind, they listen to influencer noise and once self thinkers pick up the quality of things like DS, they will echo the statements.