Comment by nomel
6 hours ago
> where Linus embraced AI as frictionless has its been
Why? He seems very pragmatic. I fully expected him to embrace it, with the only concern being correctness and quality.
6 hours ago
> where Linus embraced AI as frictionless has its been
Why? He seems very pragmatic. I fully expected him to embrace it, with the only concern being correctness and quality.
True, but I think there are quite a few very pragmatic people in here, and yet you see the they don't exactly go around singing praises.
You can usually be pragmatic but entirely emotional about something specific. Famously, Linus is both pragmatic AND emotional about being pragmatic.
This is really short-circuiting my brain right now.
The pragmatic ones are excited about where things are going.
The ones complaining about "slop" are the ones going on vibes now.
I’m strongly with you on that. Current models aren’t perfect, but neither am I. In a lot of my daily use, they’re as good as or better than I am at certain tasks.
I hear people around me talking about a bad experience they had with ChatGPT last summer as though it proves all AI coding is “slop”. Honestly, it makes me sad for them. There are reasons to dislike AI, but so many detractors skip right past those to anecdata that just aren’t relevant anymore, if they ever were.
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Also, it took a long time for rust to mature to be considered for linux kernel development. AI is faster but easier to integrate.
As someone who hates c++ so much, he is surprisingly nice to llm.
LLMs write C for the kernel. He would hate them too if they only outputed C++.
100%. Too many people equate LLM assisted programming with vibe coding some slop. Which is just a weird thing to do at this point.
That's exactly why one would expect him to not embrace it. LLM usage is anti-correlated with either of those things.
Or, he has a full understanding that, like everything single thing he's ever been involved with in his career, it's a new tech under development and will, as every measure up to now has demonstrated, improve over time. And, as all tech that has ever existed since the beginning of man starts, has somewhat initially limited, but still very practical and real, use in its current state.
Again, he's pragmatic, and has seen countless types and iterations of tech come into existence. The people expecting perfection from the start have no actual experience with the creative process, engineering or design, and and only want progress to stop (because there is, literally, without exception ever existing, no alternative to iteration).