Comment by grandpajoey

13 hours ago

What will the French government do? What does our government do when Americans are attacked by Israelis? Nothing. There can be little more proof that our governments are occupied than that!

Well, if a government does nothing about problem X doesn't proof anything. Because X is very, very large.

There are simply too many conflicts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflict...

And your claim "when Americans are attacked by Israelis" is IMHO also misleading. As if "attacking americans" is anything special.

I mean, your (and mine!) government did nothing when "americans" attacked ...

* Iraq based one fabricated lies? (Actually my government told the USA that their single witness talking about WMDs is a lunatic and should not be believed). Around 500000 people died directly or indirectly due to this war. That's a number of the University of Washington, so not some propaganda number. And yet, due to the killings of the 9/11 --- which was "only" 2996 deaths --- many countries went into mass hysteresis. But for the 500000 people died in Iraq we only have a shoulder movement? I'd even go so far and say that the rise of the ISIS was only possible because the USA created a might vacuum in Iraq.

* Now, the 9/11 attack by criminals made the USA call article 5 of the NATO statutes. As if a nation did attack them (it was a bunch of criminals). And they use that to bully others to attack Afghanistan. Now, no people of Afghanistan took part in the 9/11 attack. And the leader of that attack, bin Laden, wasn't even there. He was in Pakistan. And no full scale war was needed to get him, a commando ops was all it needed.

* If the WMDs in Iraq as a lie to make war wasn't the only one the USA did to have a reason to attack. They also fabricated the tonkin incident. Do you know that even today babies get born with gene defects in Vietnam due to Agent Orange? What does your government do about that?

* Iraq wasn't the only regional conflict with USA participation where the people were in a worse state then even under a cruel dictator. The other that comes to mind is Libya. Till today, the power vacuum created by the USA fuels a civil war, making life of people there miserable.

If governments were just and would act on all of this, then they would have made boycotts towards the USA like we now do this (rightfully!) with Russia.

It's just that humans aren't just and good. And so human government aren't good and just either.