Comment by knollimar

1 day ago

I hope there's an indie carveout or something for less than like 200k revenue.

And maybe a carveout if your licensing gets pulled.

I really want copyright to stay the hell out of the way of just letting players reverse engineer old games, but it's an international thing at this point

> And maybe a carveout if your licensing gets pulled.

This is a common excuse publishers use to yank games, so if you do this the bill would be crippled.

  • So if steam shuts down P2p relays, all the companies owe patches or damages 20 years in the future?

Nope. Every single game should.

We have a right to own our videogame, there is absolutely no necessity to have an exclusion, make the server open source if you want to shutdown the server

  • I'm pointing out it's potentially a few weeks of effort.

    "The right to own games" is just an entitlement. I don't see an argument for where this originates; it's entitlement to someone else's effort, or effectively mandating only selling games with that extra effort bundled in.

    I don't think it's fair to expect hobby projects or small studios to be legally obligated to carry this, and open sourcing it because you sold it once is a big jump. Not all binaries are simple to ship, either.

    I'm fine with the Californian law where they mandate marking it as a license and not a purchase, but a flat fee for minimum 10 years service I think is reasonable.

    • Everything is entitlement, of course. Videogames are not a necessity. But our parents could pass their music collection to their kids, and we want the same for ourselves with videogames.

      Most indie games will have no problems with this either, so I am not concerned.

      Clearly the market hasn't worked well for the consumer, so it's time to set laws.

My guess is indie devs would actually mostly be fine with this.

  • My guess is this wouldn't even be required for 95% of indie devs

    • And what about the 5% who are making a really cool online co op game who can't vendor any dependencies now?

      Does an LLC shield this? Do you have to carry the perpetual 25% on your balance sheet indefinitely?