Comment by lovich

11 days ago

The most famous free speech absolutist is Elon Musk and he’s not only not a critic of the Trump administrations lawlessness but a direct participant in it. Also censors a lot of shit on Twitter that he doesn’t like.

Yes, Elon has disgraced himself. But the majority of anti-woke, free-speech advocates have seamlessly transitioned to criticizing Trump.

Just look at the signatories of the Harper's letter: https://harpers.org/a-letter-on-justice-and-open-debate/

The vast, vast majority have gone on to criticize Trump in his second term.

  • There's maybe 40 people on this list you could remotely consider "critics of woke censorship." And they are certainly not critics of censorship, wholesale. JK Rowling is a billionaire who has used her fortune to threaten legal action against multiple critics, forcing them to retract what they wrote about her. That does not sound like someone who is against censorship to me. Or is censorship okay as long as it's not "Woke"?

    And even if your description did apply to everyone on this list, so what? A small handful of academics write a letter condemning Trump. How did you spin that into "People that criticize woke censorship don't like Trump." Are you under the impression that the world is comprised of ivory tower academics, and everyone else is a non-entity?

    If you were paying attention at all, you'd see the entire anti-woke movement has become a young person's game, and it's completely divorced from censorship. It's more about open, malicious resentment towards anything non-white, now.

    • That whole letter is criticizing woke censorship. So everyone on that list is a critic. And it's not all academics.

      It's very clear to observers of reality that the vast, vast majority of prominent people and organizations who criticized wokeness have moved on to criticzing Trump. For the most part, "free speech advocates" are just normal liberals with principles, but that doesn't stop people in every one of these threads calling out "free speech" like it's something insidious.

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