Comment by sgt
10 hours ago
Meanwhile, most of us don't have any issues. I think overall the Apple ecosystem is really good in terms of software quality. However, there are of course issues like with any system and if Apple is not able to reproduce something, the harder it gets to get it fixed.
And the whole premise of your comment doesn't make sense as it's based on a bug in a macOS version that hasn't even been released yet. Of course stuff will break when you're busy developing.
Regularly bugs reported during a beta do not get fixed until the next major release. If they do not, they will be closes as wontfix because they were fine to exist a whole major version.
My macbook has been kernel panicking during every sleep.
Been using macOS since the OS X days of Panther (2003). Since then, people were kicking and screaming about bugs that Apple presumably didn't fix yet, and that's probably true. But it does get fixed, and if you're just sensible - like not upgrading immediately, you'll hardly notice issues. On average, I'm about 6-12 months behind on major versions. I'm in 26.6.2 (Tahoe) right now
I "upgraded" from Tahoe pretty quickly because Tahoe, even a year on, was such a buggy mess that I hoped Golden Gate would be better, especially after it was glazed as a bug fix release. But it just introduced new bugs without fixing the old ones. Staying 6-12 moths behind doesn't leave you with a functional system anymore, it's just differently broken.
> Meanwhile, most of us don't have any issues.
Do you have data on that? Based on peopel I talk to, it seems like there are plenty of people on both sides, and it's not clear to me which one is the majority.
The only data most of us can refer to are Google Trends. The unprecedented peaks for "How to switch to Android", "iPhone revert update", "iPhone fix battery", "iPhone slow", "new iOS sucks", "iPhone bad now", "How to block iPhone updates" all reached new peaks with the release of Liquid Glass in late 2025.
Similar story for Macs. It's hard not to see the graph for "macos broken" ( https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=macos%20... ) or "macos slow" ( https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=macos%20... ) or "how to fix macos" ( https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=how%20to... ) and find any reason for this other than people having a surge in bad experiences with Liquid Glass.
Of course, this is only Google Trends, and even if we interpret this as a 4x to 100x increase in bad experiences with Apple products with the forced introduction of Liquid Glass, it still might be the case that >50% of people aren't consciously experiencing problems from it.
Wow those are some pretty crazy graphs. Is Apple customer satisfaction tanking that hard?
I'm not debating whether there are issues. Any sufficiently complex system will have issues, and those having issues will be very vocal about it. But I'm pretty sure it's not worse, or unacceptable.
By and large macOS is extremely stable and robust. Based on my both experience and hundreds of employees using Macs over a 10+ year period. We'd undoubtedly have had more support issues if we had used Windows, as an example.
> I'm not debating whether there are issues
No, you're debating whether "most" users have issues, which was your claim. I don't bother complaining to the IT people at my company because of fundamental issues in the OS that they can't do anything about, so I'm not sure your data implies what you think it does.