Comment by geraneum

13 hours ago

It’s really hard to vilify the Chinese now on this and make it stick! So far, they seem to be championing openness and freedom on this front, which considering the nature of the technology, is a huge deal!

If they change their stance later, we’ll criticize them the same.

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stri8ted  11 hours ago

Its not about bad/good. It's about self-serving interests. Currently, it serves China's interests to open source the models. If they had capabilities beyond those available in the US, I expect that would no longer be the case. Especially given the military/cyber implications. You don't expect them to open source their J-35 blueprints, so why would they behave differently here?

The reason this matters is, if along the way, they destroy all economic incentives for US labs, you may find yourself in a world, where you have no alternatives to closed Chinese models.

Look no further than what happened to mineral processing. Notice they are not open sourcing their mineral processing and magnet-manufacturing technologies.

  • geraneum  10 hours ago

    You seem to be under the impression that somehow only US has the capability to advance this tech. Aren’t these AI mega corporations constantly trying to scare us that if they stop pushing AI, China will get ahead? Which narrative should we believe?

    > if along the way, they destroy all economic incentives for US labs

    Nah, they should be able to compete! To be honest, I find it hard to sympathize with trillion dollar ungodly rich corps.

    • stri8ted  10 hours ago

      > You seem to be under the impression that somehow only US has the capability to advance this tech.

      I did not say this, nor do I believe it.

      > Aren’t these AI mega corporations constantly trying to scare us that if they stop pushing AI, China will get ahead? Which narrative should we believe?

      Correct. If US paused, it will not be long before China exceeds US capabilities. I don't understand your question.

      > Nah, they should be able to compete! To be honest, I find it hard to sympathize with trillion dollar ungodly rich corps.

      You can't compete with free. No-one is asking for sympathy. I'm merely pointing out, people should not delude themselves that China is doing this for the goodness of mankind, and it will continue indefinitely.

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  • spencerflem  11 hours ago

    I find it hard to imagine that it would be possible to be less ethical than the US labs.

    This fear mongering doesn’t scare me