Comment by floro

9 hours ago

If it was privacy first it would ship with microG by default.

Sandboxed Google Play isn't installed by default, so users have a choice if they want to use it or not. Many don't.

GrapheneOS is more deGoogled than alternatives, so if you're thinking privacy = deGoogling, then GrapheneOS is a good option.

But you seem to be under the impression that microG improves privacy. That's not the case when you look at the big picture. Consider why people need microG in the first place. It's basically there to pretend to be Google Play Services for apps that rely on Google Play Services. Which apps are those? Apps with Google libraries in them.

So, pretend apps with Google libraries are an "app & mini Google Play Services", and the breakdown is like this:

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App & mini Google Play Services = access is restricted, like other regular apps.

App & mini Google Play Services + Sandboxed Google Play (unprivileged) = virtually the same access as above

App & mini Google Play Services + microG (privileged) = Google has the same access as the situations above, but with worse app compatibility, worse security (especially because of privileged access), and worse privacy (leaks).

No, it would not. That would require expanding trust to a 3rd party, and granting privileged access to software that downloads and runs google code. That software has also had issues such as leaking location to apps that dont have location access.

That would be an extreme reduction in privacy, not an improvement.

  • How do you even write this comment without seeing the irony? You made my point for me: GrapheneOS is security first, privacy second