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Comment by smt88

8 hours ago

This is obvious and not an interesting observation.

The question is how to get a good and efficient dev experience while also preserving that level of speed.

AI has now made that question mostly irrelevant, since it can generate and rapidly edit vanilla webpages without a framework to make the DX better.

It is obvious, yet so many people don't understand it.

There is no secret ingredient, writing a website, or anything really, without a framework is not wildly more difficult than using a framework.

Save for a few cases where all you really want to do is covered by the default configuration, you generally don't end up writing a lot less code with a framework. Worst case, you end up spending most of your time working around the framework.

  • > you generally don't end up writing a lot less code with a framework

    What? This is absolutely untrue for anything that isn't a trivial v1 prototype. Complex applications have a lot of boilerplate, which is unavoidable with the baggage of HTML and CSS.

    There's a reason people are obsessed with web frameworks. Writing vanilla HTML/CSS/JS for large or complex apps is an enormous pain.