Comment by enraged_camel

19 hours ago

People keep asking OpenAI for a mode that's as good as Opus 5.5, and they release this instead. Interesting strategy. Let's see how it works out for them.

They don't have anything competitive with Opus 5.5 yet. There is a supposed model in the works, "Bel" last time I paid attention to gossip, that is thought to be better, later this year. Allegedly Anthropic caught OpenAI off guard and / or their different training approaches ended up working better than anticipated.

My expectation is Fable 5.5 is next overall improvement, and my bet is OpenAI's "Bel" will be the next competitive one (or, their lack of safety culture will bite them/us in the process).

  • There’s also a chance they surrender the dev market altogether to Ant and just focus on the “normie” segment with dots, computer use, excel etc. In which case they won’t have anything competitive to opus-5.5 anytime soon for SWE.

Luna and Sol-6.1 are crazy cost effective and all flows here have switched to them, so I'd say really well so far.

There's very few stuff that needs Astra/Opus level intelligence.

Luna 6.1 would be amazing.

This release is interesting for enterprise at API rates.

At least unless the Terminal Bench 4.0 score is more indicative than the other ones, because that one shows it clearly worse than 6.1 Sol for both performance and cost.

Taking the benchmarks in the article at face value, this is ~on par with Opus 5.5 for ~1/4 the price!

I hate Opus 5.5, constant overreach and over-engineering for any project

  • That's wild to say when comparing to the OpenAI family of models. I've never seen so many tests that validate tests that validate tests.

    • Right?! I think sol has some obsessive tendencies, i literally caught it the other day spawning a sub sub agent doing a final fourth test for a piece of code that isn’t even critical say in embedded or similar, now I have to instruct it to only test once!