Comment by JumpCrisscross

18 hours ago

> Spying on American citizens is a bipartisan point of agreement

Has been. Make it a priority in primaries. It hasn’t been to date—the overlap of privacy concerned Americans and the lazy and nihilistic who reject the political process is almost a union.

To add to this, it's completely dumb to think that any party is necessarily the same over decades. Look around. Most of what you see today is reactionary. Hold on to party views from 10 or 50 years ago, and you won't get elected today. Both parties are in turmoil in terms of public support.

Historical "bipartisan did X" means nothing today. The time is always right now to define what a future party should be. It's a great time to destroy the old and reimagine the new.

  • > President Obama defended the U.S. government's surveillance programs, telling NBC's Jay Leno on Tuesday that: "There is no spying on Americans."

    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/08/06/209692380...

    I seem to remember that Senator Wyden's public warnings (over a decade ago) that the government was spying on Americans was one reason for President Obama to go on national TV and lie to Americans.

    Senator Wyden has a long history of warning the public on surveillance abuses.

> Make it a priority in primaries.

lol what primaries?

  • the primaries where the person who won dropped out and was replaced with someone that literally no one voted for